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2005-11-15 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by .com 2005-11-15 06:28|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Excellent article, .com. Time to read the tea leaves:

China is an authoritarian regime and a nonmarket command economy still controlled by the Communist Party. The central goal of its leadership is maintaining its own power, at all costs."

When we wake up and realize this everything is going to get a lot better. Should this world allow China to become an economically functional entity without having forced upon them any democratic and free-market reform, it will rank as one of the greatest strategic blunders in all history. Anyone who attempts to call China's current system capitalistic in any way, shape or form is out to lunch. The PRC's economy is a sewer for foreign capital investment that ~~flushes~~ funnels directly into China's military.

The persistent assertion by the Chinese leadership to their political cadre and military officers that America is the "main enemy" and that war with the United States is "inevitable."

Everybody clear on that? We've already seen the damage done when Japan lost the military war and went to economic war with us. Do we really need a repeat lesson from a much larger foe bent on duplicating the exact same plan?

The PRC's predatory trade practices and intellectual property theft that continue in violation of past commitments and World Trade Organization obligations. In part, the result is a bilateral trade deficit that has increased "over 140 percent in only four years." The wealth thus garnered by China is used -- among other things -- to fuel the plundering of America's remaining high-technology industrial base and the utter liquidation of our manufacturing sector. Wealth transfers from the United States are underwriting Beijing's ominous build-up of its armed forces, as well.

People need to realize that patronizing big players in China, like Wal-Mart, may not have very saluatory effects for America. Our politicians need to understand that allowing campaign finance originating with corporations whose interests depend upon Chinese manufacturing capacity may not be operating in this nation's best interests either. Neither side of the aisle in Washington D.C. has a single clue regarding this as they continue to chase political contributions without regard for their actual sources.

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-15 11:36|| 2005-11-15 11:36|| Front Page Top

#2 "Official Chinese efforts to secure energy resources from all over the world to meet its yawning needs..."

Frank...you mean like this?

IRAN
$20-billion gas deal signed with China
Iran has agreed in principle to sell $20 billion of liquefied natural gas to China over the next 25 years. Ignoring US energy sanctions on Teheran, the two countries have signed a memorandum of understanding that begins shipping the LNG supplies in 2008, UPI reported. The Beijing-based Zhuhai Zhenrong Corp., a spinoff of China`s defense and missile contractor, China North Industries Corp. -- the target of US sanctions amid missile sales to Iran -- would get an annual 2.5 million metric tons of Iranian LNG. China is already a major oil customer of Iran.

www.diplomatictraffic.com/embassy_briefs.

Posted by DeotGuy 2005-11-15 11:49|| 2005-11-15 11:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Wife is still ticked off at all the gov and media kissing up to china. Of course she is a bit biased.. having history with Dr. Sun's Three Principles of the People

Posted by 3dc 2005-11-15 14:02|| 2005-11-15 14:02|| Front Page Top

#4 This is ALRIGHT, guys, but the article would have done better to talk about the social unrest (Google "Taishi") further in-land than the coastal boomtowns...

Oh, and I heard an interesting theory in one Rantburg comment -- the possibility that dicking us would be as economically disastrous, ironically due to the trade imbalance. Anyone who can elaborate on that?

Posted by Edward Yee 2005-11-15 14:13|| http://edwardyee.fanworks.net]">[http://edwardyee.fanworks.net] 2005-11-15 14:13|| Front Page Top

#5 China's future is a nightmare of 100 doors, each of which leads to something even more horrible than the last.

However, their worst problem is straightforward. They have perhaps half a billion too many people.

It is important to look at this as an axiom, because most of their other problems radiate outward from this one. Instead of using the typical standards, of democracy, liberty and freedom, China needs to be examined at the ecological or biological level.

No one could manage this many people, and certainly not a population with this many excess people. Socially, economically, structurally, China is collapsing. It consumes itself like a cancer.

Somehow, someway, there will be an intercession resulting in the greatest cull of humanity ever. In more comprehensible terms, if ONE MILLION Chinese died each and every day, it would take between a year and a year-and-a-half to accomplish this harvest.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-11-15 19:31|| 2005-11-15 19:31|| Front Page Top

#6 That post may have generated more visuals in thirty seconds than any other I've ever read, Moose. Wow - and you're right. Implosion must come at some point - no one is going to invite them to dinner. I won't knowingly buy their shit, any of it, ever again. I hope there are more than a few like me, too.

Cull - good choice, heh.

Posted by .com 2005-11-15 19:36|| 2005-11-15 19:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Edward, They've got nothing but IOUs from us. I suspect that if we get close to war, they could become unmarketable and lose a lot of value. If we go to war, they could lose all value. At least we got a lot of DVD players.

China's future is a lot of poor old people. China will get old before it gets rich. Possibly the only country with a worse demographic situation is Russia. Here

Posted by Ulemble Glealing4486 2005-11-15 19:38|| 2005-11-15 19:38|| Front Page Top

#8 Drudge has a report that China intends to vaccinate 14 Billion (with a B) birds for the avian flu. A real clusterfuck - how many will hide their birds, fearing they'll be killed? Why not focus on a rational plan for their people's safety? I sincerely hope their dumb plans bite them in the ass - they are our enemy.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-15 20:33|| 2005-11-15 20:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Somehow, someway, there will be an intercession resulting in the greatest cull of humanity ever. In more comprehensible terms, if ONE MILLION Chinese died each and every day, it would take between a year and a year-and-a-half to accomplish this harvest.

The Henan Province AIDS outbreak is the largest medically caused AIDS epidemic in the world's history. It makes the Romanian orphanage disaster look like a picnic. Due to Chinese government inaction, many of the infected and undiagnosed peasants were allowed to migrate into the city centers.

Combine the huge deficit of marriageable women (due to "1 family - 1 child" policy), the predictably massive uptick of homosexuality amongst all the surplus bachelors along with this latent AIDS epidemic and you have a massive portion of the cull right there.

Some more SARS and avian flu outbreaks, a couple of famines and crop failures and the balance could shift. China's corrupt system is breeding up all of these. Just not fast enough.

The damage they are doing to the remaining world while all of these internal rots beset them is just too vast and irreversible to be ignored. Containment is still required to ensure they do not take down the rest of the world in the massive toilet that they continue to claim is really an olympic size swimming pool.

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-15 20:49|| 2005-11-15 20:49|| Front Page Top

#10 What you mention is called the "warlords" theory. That is, China descending into anarchy, when various military and civilian leaders essentially chop up the country into warlord domains - with nuclear weapons.

This is one of the "extremely bad" scenarios, as any semblance of failsafe or nuclear surety is shot to hell.

As far as their AIDS epidemic, on the down side, they have a regular, annual, migrant population of over 350 Million, that travel through central China. (Boggles the mind.) Along their route was where the tainted blood services happened, infecting entire villages in a single day.

However, even AIDS is not fast enough and lethal enough. As a disease, it follows the typical weakening curve too quickly. The American strain, for example, is far less virulent every few years. It might kill 35 or 50 Million in China. Not hardly enough.

Whatever kills Chinese like there is no tomorrow will most likely be a pulmonary illness, that is, an easily transmitted lung disease.

The last such disease that swept part of China was the hemorrhagic smallpox that devastated their army during the Korean War. It, not our guns, stopped their advance and broke their lines.

I have in past suggested that China and India share this demographic nightmare, and that sheer demographic imbalance may put them at war with each other -- a bizarre scenario. A war of attrition like World War I, but with literally hundreds of millions of soldiers slaughtering each other with sticks and rocks, while their regular armies stay in the rear and pour endless amounts of high explosives at the unarmed enemy infantry.

From our point of view, the most horrific war of all could result in an almost unthinkable scenario: a single US officer might be required to exterminate a million enemy by his actions.

What soul could say: "I have killed my million"?

Horror, indeed.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-11-15 21:43|| 2005-11-15 21:43|| Front Page Top

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