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2006-02-25 Arabia
Al Qaeda claims responsibility for Saudi attack
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Posted by lotp 2006-02-25 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6470 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Too bad they've failed.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-02-25 08:11||   2006-02-25 08:11|| Front Page Top

#2 ?????

I know how much you .... dislike, disdain, (fill in the blank with your favorite harsher word) the Arabs, and perhaps the Saudis in particular, what with their Wahabist fundees and all.

But are you really cheering for a major interruption of the international economy? Is there an upside that would outweigh the downside for lots of people?

honest question, not flaming you
Posted by lotp 2006-02-25 10:12||   2006-02-25 10:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Sure there's an upside. Park your honkin SUV in the driveway for a few weeks and walk your obese ass the 300 yards to McDonald's for the supersized take-out.

Lose weight. Reduce oil consumption. Look for alternatives. Paradigm shift. It's all choice.
Posted by Hupomoger Clans9827 2006-02-25 11:57||   2006-02-25 11:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, Canadian troll, I don't own an RV, I don't weigh 300 lbs and I don't eat at McDonalds.

I do, however, have a pretty good handle on what a major oil shock would do to a lot of economies -- not the US so much as most European states and an awful lot of poor people.
Posted by lotp 2006-02-25 12:05||   2006-02-25 12:05|| Front Page Top

#5 I can accomodate both of you -- there's this 50 km wide strip of sand on the eastern edge of the Arabian penisula ...
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-02-25 12:06||   2006-02-25 12:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Apologies lotp: I most certainly didn't mean to use a personal YOU. Heaven forbid! I admire you. Sorry for the implied personal - not at all my intent. scusi!

It's hard to use a "one" or "average man" ,you in english. I do echo your fears of economic impact. I just think there is a lot that "average guy" could do to reduce dependence on foreign (or simply unfriendly) oil. There may well be a dearth of it in the offing.
Posted by Hupomoger Clans9827 2006-02-25 12:15||   2006-02-25 12:15|| Front Page Top

#7 Thanks, HC - and I agree. Just ask my daughter who keeps eyeing the thermostat which is a few degrees lower than in other winters, or my husband who has to wend his way past wooden racks with clothes airdrying. ;-)

And yeah - we can and should (gently) encourage one another to take this seriously.
Posted by lotp 2006-02-25 12:24||   2006-02-25 12:24|| Front Page Top

#8 LOL lotp. thanks for understanding.

Gently noted. I'm freezing my butt off with lowered thermo and cranky today. Got my heating bill yesterday - up 150%. How you doin'?

(I do French better than English - admitted, but I never mean offense. just get too passionate, sorry. je m'excuse)
Posted by Hupomoger Clans9827 2006-02-25 12:31||   2006-02-25 12:31|| Front Page Top

#9 We should just make sure the price of oil never goes below $50 a barrell by putting an import fee on any imported oril or oil derivative product that raises the price to $50. If domestic producers of alternatives know that the price will never go below $50 per barrell, there will be plenty of domestic alternatives developed. Just be prepared to hear lots of squeals when Arabian oil goes to $10 per barrel and every body realizes that gas could cost $1.00 per gallon if only we got rid of that pesky import fee.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-02-25 12:46||   2006-02-25 12:46|| Front Page Top

#10 giggedy, giggedy, giggedy.
Posted by Hupomoger Clans9827 2006-02-25 12:49||   2006-02-25 12:49|| Front Page Top

#11 HC the woids you're looking for is: you'uns, yawl, yawls, we'all - youse, youseguys or us guys also acceptable.

You do suck in the plural. :>
Posted by 6 2006-02-25 13:43||   2006-02-25 13:43|| Front Page Top

#12 I drive a "gas-guzzling" Dodge Caravan, because it's the only vehicle that doesn't HURT to drive. My house is 68 during the day (got used to it in Europe), and 60 at night. I do what I can to conserve, don't make unnecessary trips, combine trips when I can, and all those other conservation ideas people have come up with. My utility bill has almost doubled in the last two years, partly because of increased cost and partly because of poor management by the local city government.

We could greatly increase national production by reviewing, and in most cases loosening, federal and state restrictions imposed by "conservationists". We need to drill in the ANWR. We need to drill off ALL our coasts where there is oil. We need to develop a viable oil shale industry, increase efficiency, do better with coal, and look into what others are doing in such places as Brazil and South Africa. It all takes money, and the only money that's going to be effective in the short term is that invested in private enterprise.

The one thing we're going to have to do for any of this to work is to make those people that demand we don't do ANYTHING pay a price for their behavior. Until they have to foot part of the bill themselves, they will continue to "do good" at the expense of the rest of us, with no cost to themselves. It's time to rein in these "useful idiots" and shut them down. It's also time to get the Saudi influence out of our government and NGOs.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-02-25 14:26||]">[]  2006-02-25 14:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Better a major upset now than dhummitude 20 years down the road, lotp.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-02-25 14:30||   2006-02-25 14:30|| Front Page Top

#14 I say turn up the heat. Ok...maybe not, but the faster we get to fuel cells and renewable energy sources, the sooner the Saudis princes will not have money to fund Wahabbi terrorism.

Our own oil industry won't be hurt. They will stay busy here in the US and Alaska for years to come and won't have to act like serfs for the Saudis anymore.

Let's move forward faster.
Posted by 2b 2006-02-25 14:36||   2006-02-25 14:36|| Front Page Top

#15 I think the Saudis got lucky.

Here it's 65F day and 60F at night. I drive a Ford Escort and the Wife drives a Ford Focus. My personal space is heated by a bunch of computers. energy price doubled while consumption is down.

We are getting more Insulation by hook or crook.
Posted by SPoD 2006-02-25 14:38||   2006-02-25 14:38|| Front Page Top

#16 #13, if it would work out that way .... I think we'd see the usual western EU suspects desperately elbow each other out of the way in their haste to proclaim solidarity with the Eurabia ideal.
Posted by lotp 2006-02-25 14:39||   2006-02-25 14:39|| Front Page Top

#17 Old Patriot, that last paragraph was a classic: I'm copping it for my website, with attribution.

If you want less of something, tax it. If you want more of something, subsidize it. Elementary facts no leftist wants to confront.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-02-25 17:00||]">[]  2006-02-25 17:00|| Front Page Top

#18 Wow! Did this turn polite or WHAT?

It's time they felt the pain too. Typical of Al-Q though, they had little vision. One refinery, Hah! should have gone after the pumping facility at the port, or sunk a tanker in the straits.
Posted by Skidmark 2006-02-25 23:07||   2006-02-25 23:07|| Front Page Top

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