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Illegals-advocate group to stalk Minutemen kids
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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-02-25 10:33|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6467 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I'm a nice peaceful fellow, but don't try threatening my kids. I'm apt to get pro-active and not wait for trouble to start.
Posted by James">James  2006-02-25 11:35||]">[]  2006-02-25 11:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Maryland is as crazy as Massachusetts or California.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-02-25 11:48||   2006-02-25 11:48|| Front Page Top

#3 There will be blood if the Maryland state government doesn't stop this nonsense. Threatening children evokes a visceral, atavistic response. The first child harmed will start a series of actions that no sane person wants to see. These people will find that there is a limit to tolerance.
Posted by RWV 2006-02-25 12:16||   2006-02-25 12:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Takoma Park, site of the Casa day-labor center they've been monitoring, has declared itself a Sanctuary City and prohibits its employees, including police, from arresting illegal aliens or assisting federal immigration authorities.

All it takes is a federal grand jury to bring in charges of abetting and accessory to the fact to change this attitude. However, don't expect George to make even a wee display of enforcing the existing laws. No help there.
Posted by Phereper Omolunter9923 2006-02-25 12:26||   2006-02-25 12:26|| Front Page Top

#5 this is so over-the-top that it can't be ignored. Their funding must be cut if not cancelled, and Gustavo driven from his cushy taxpayer-paid job. Let him dig ditches. First time they harrass a child will be the end of their organization, and dipshit's too stoopid to understand that. Now contractors, employers are complicit in the threats...think that won't kill his little hiring center?

"Tom Beauchamp of 222 main street employs illegals from a hiring center that threatens and harrasses American citizen children. Tell Tom what you think. Oh yeah, you pay for those illegals and the harrassment"
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-02-25 12:41||   2006-02-25 12:41|| Front Page Top

#6 I just erased a comment that would have set asbestos on fire. RVW is absolutely correct that there will be bloodshed if these people follow through on their actions. Enough is enough. It's long past time to enforce the immigration laws and I'm rapidljy getting to the point where I want to see illegals coming across the border shot on sight. Let's treat them the way Mexico treats those who come across their southern border.
Posted by mac 2006-02-25 12:48||   2006-02-25 12:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Most people won't pay any attention to people taping each other usually, but the moment these guys mentioned the Minuteman's kids, they pretty much just lumped themselves in with child molesters. It doesn't matter what they say now, just the fact they brought someone's kids into it tends to freak out Joe Average.
Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2006-02-25 14:05||   2006-02-25 14:05|| Front Page Top

#8 I guess I do underestimate the power of human stupidity. This guy runs a tax-funded day labor hiring center. And he doesn't grasp how his actions will cast a brighter light on himself than on the Minutemen?

Wow. Life is hard. It's harder when you are stupid.
Posted by 2b 2006-02-25 14:32||   2006-02-25 14:32|| Front Page Top

#9 As soon as you insinuate video taping or tacitly harassing school kids you cross the line. Where I come from you never mess w/another man's wife and you never-ever f*ck w/another man's child. Mr. Torres' self-righteous dumb-ass might just end up in a shallow grave if he keeps this shit up. I wouldn't lose any sleep.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-02-25 14:41||   2006-02-25 14:41|| Front Page Top

#10 "What we want to do is to basically discourage contractors and businesses from hiring illegal."

A bit off-topic but it occurred to me how the individual citizen can contribute to this issue.
If not out of principle then perhaps out of protection; when choosing a contractor verify that they only use legal workers to complete all work.

US labor reports state that Illegal aliens are classified to have the highest rate of uninsured workers. Contractors employ illegal aliens to cut costs so not surprisingly they rarely insure their workers. If insurance coverage is not a mandated requirement for employment and is left to the discretion of the individual, it is proven that lower-paid workers most often choose to go without. As a homeowner you are legally responsible to cover all medical costs of an uninsured or underinsured worker on your property if they are injured. Perhaps more alarming is that regardless of citizenship status, any worker (including sub-contractors) can bring a lawsuit against a homeowner for injury, death, as well as monetary disputes. Without a signed waiver releasing the homeowner from liability an individual worker or his family can place a lien on the consumers property until the dispute has been resolved. The unscrupulous contractor believes meeting complete tax requirements is an obligation for the other guy. Therefore he stays under the radar and pays illegal workers in cash. An employee background check is also an expense that is neglected. Criminal background checks are costly, especially for out of country inquiries. So these contractors rely on the honor of the individual. (You know the one that is here illegally) Of course training typically is on on-the-job or completely nonexistent. An finally, the individual consumer is rarely charged but, intentionally or not, if you have work performed by illegal aliens either directly or through a contractor you could be in violation of Federal law.

As a consumer you are within your rights to demand your contractor use only legal employees. Remember, price is what you payÂ…quality is what you get.
Posted by DepotGuy 2006-02-25 15:36||   2006-02-25 15:36|| Front Page Top

#11 The Minuteman group is only performing every citizen's duty to report violations of the law to the authorities. Threatening them and their families for doing so is, as far as I am concerned, much worse than what Martha Stewart was sent up the river for. It's closer to the plot of "Mississippi Burning."

The very fact that Immigration and Customs Enforcement isn't right there WITH the local Minuteman group, checking ID and running these slimebags' prints qualifies as a national scandal. The "mainstream media" is sure missing a good story - they're even passing up a chance to embarrass their archenemy in the White House, and this time they'd be morally right to do so. Why are they silent?

Threatening the Minutemen and their families is a despicable act which shows Casa de Maryland's basic function as a crime syndicate. The fact that state and local governments and private employers involved are willing accomplices, financiers and beneficiaries of Casa de Maryland's criminal activities only means that each of the people and organizations involved must be prosecuted if the law is to mean anything.

I was SURE that a couple of Civil Rights Acts passed in the 1960s - not to mention the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution - forbid what Casa de Maryland and the local governments involved in supporting them are doing. Under these laws, state and local governments and Casa-like organizations such as the KKK which tried to uphold segregation were eventually defeated in the 1960s and 1970s. All it took was a very little backbone on the part of the Feds.

It's time for the Federal Government to remember that they're not allowed to look the other way when Federal law is being not just violated but openly defied. Where are all the Federal marshals and troops which Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon used to establish primacy of Federal laws over state and local defiance?
Posted by blackjack_pershing 2006-02-25 15:37||   2006-02-25 15:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Wow. can you imagine what a video tape of these asshats stalking little kids will do if shown on the evening news? Hell hath no fury will have nothing on this.

I don't think even the mob in its heyday threatened a man's kids did they?
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-02-25 16:11||   2006-02-25 16:11|| Front Page Top

#13 Rarely. The code of Omerta forbade doing so. touching the wife and kids who are not participating in Our Thing was the equivalent of using WMD, without pantywaist NGO carping about illegality.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-02-25 19:06||]">[]  2006-02-25 19:06|| Front Page Top

#14 Uhhh... Hasn't it occurred to these clowns that people who can shoot straight had kids who can shoot straight?

I think #12 CF's idea is a great one - start taping these jerks taping children. And have an armed backup in a van nearby - and another person to tape what happens when the first person get threatened by the illegals and/or their enablers.

I'd pay good money to see that. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-02-25 21:52||]">[]  2006-02-25 21:52|| Front Page Top

#15 I haven't had a firearm in my house since I joined the Air Force in 1964. Last week, I told my brother I was going to pick up the two shotguns and the single-shot .22 he's been keeping for me, and I asked my FIL for his old 30-06 (he's 87, and can hardly walk - certainly not hunt any more). I'm also planning on buying a pistol of some description - probably a .38 magnum, so my wife can handle it, also.

Sooner or later, we're going to have to have a knock-down, drag-out battle, not only with the illegals in this country, but also with all the mushy-headed "idealists" that believe human nature is something other than what it is. The winners will be those most heavily armed, and willing to use them. It's going to be a bloody, bloody mess, but there's no hope in he$$ that it can be avoided.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-02-25 22:25||]">[]  2006-02-25 22:25|| Front Page Top

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