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2006-03-02 Home Front: Culture Wars
Cardinal Vows to Defy Anti-Immigrant Bill
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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-03-02 09:45|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [354 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1  "Unless you are a Native American, everyone in here is the son or daughter of immigrants," said Mahony, speaking during Mass at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.

Well actually they are too. It's just that their ancestors are so far back that one could never trace their family tree. I agree that it is not the business of churchs to have to check residency papers but neither should they encourage or facilitate breaking the law. With one proviso, laws that seek to deny the rights of citizens and can be fought with civil disobediance ala the civil rights fights of the past.
Posted by Cheaderhead 2006-03-02 10:15||   2006-03-02 10:15|| Front Page Top

#2 "Unless you are a Native American,..."
Perhaps at odds with Merriam-Webster, a Cherokee friend of mine insisted that he was an "American Indian". He further pointed out that anyone born in America is a native, thus a Native American. As further proof to his argument, he said look at the sign as you approach Cherokee, North Carolina. It reads "Indian Reservation" not "Native American Reservation".

I'm wondering if the Cardinal cannot render assistance to the governmaent without compromising his religious duties. As Jesus pointed out, “Give to worldly authorities the things that belong to them, and to God what belongs to God.”
Posted by GK 2006-03-02 11:33||   2006-03-02 11:33|| Front Page Top

#3 The catch here may be that the priests are helping parishioners with federal funds. If they won't enforce federal laws (which they ought not) then they shouldn't take federal funds (which they ought not). This has always been the downside of the faith based initiatives. He who pays the piper calls the tune. It's the Feds favorite way of taking over, offer cash then pull the strings.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-02 11:52||   2006-03-02 11:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Mahoney is a jackoff. He's one of the absolutely WORST Bishops in the US Catholic Church.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-03-02 13:30||   2006-03-02 13:30|| Front Page Top

#5 GK: Was/is your friend a member of AIM?

Lots of injuns prefer to be called American Indians. Some get downright nasty about it when you call them "native Americans", insisting their occupancy of the continent predates America.

Go figure.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-03-02 13:43||   2006-03-02 13:43|| Front Page Top

#6 Its all PC in the name. NA came up because the Europeans had tagged the natives with a misapplied term thinking they [the Europeans] had made it to India. It had been used for hundreds of years, then the 60s and the victimization culture took hold and the PC police decided that it was an insult. Aboriginal-American wasn't classy enough I guess, but it does have that oh, so in ' - '.
Posted by Chanter Cruger6161 2006-03-02 14:44||   2006-03-02 14:44|| Front Page Top

#7 "We need reform that looks to family unification"

No problemo there yer holiness. How bouts they do there unifying in their "legal" country of origin.
Posted by DepotGuy 2006-03-02 15:00||   2006-03-02 15:00|| Front Page Top

#8 #5. MOJO, I doubt that he's a member of AIM and he never ever gets nasty about anything. Just an all round good guy.
Posted by GK 2006-03-02 18:20||   2006-03-02 18:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Yer all squatters.
Posted by .Alley Oop 2006-03-02 19:20||   2006-03-02 19:20|| Front Page Top

#10 As a Catholic, I agree with OS - MAhoney's presided over the silencing and transferring of unknown numbers of pedophile priests to unsuspecting parishes, smashing the lives of untold children. He should be run out of the Church on a rail and sent to prison for conspiracy and abetting crimes. Mahoney should just STFU about legalities and morality.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-03-02 20:31||   2006-03-02 20:31|| Front Page Top

#11 the church isn't a place for politics. If churches start/continue to push these views, they won't be non profit much longer.
Posted by Jan 2006-03-02 21:09||   2006-03-02 21:09|| Front Page Top

#12 The Dioceses of Los Angeles and San Bernardino are at the forefront of this 'social justice' issue. The good Cardinal and the bishops may be right in saying they are "not in favor of 'unfettered immigration'", but they're not far off from that stance.
Posted by Pappy 2006-03-02 21:45||   2006-03-02 21:45|| Front Page Top

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