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2006-03-02 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Neither Military Action Nor Diplomacy Will Resolve Iran Crisis
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Posted by Steve White 2006-03-02 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [386 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 He predictably ignores the ethnic divisions, which will bring down the Iranian regime.
Posted by phil_b">phil_b  2006-03-02 00:16||]">[]  2006-03-02 00:16|| Front Page Top

#2 I stand here before you, appealing on behalf of the many dissidents who simply ask for the support of the free world. And I hope that I am right to being optimistic that the free world is indeed committed to invest in democracy as the solution for Iran, rather than endless negotiations or military strikes.

ah yes, free the dissidents and magically Iran will become a democracy. It's all the west's fault that it is not, don't ya see. So don't bomb us, don't talk to us, don't santion us - just make your call to free the dissidents and all will be well. Please send, with your pleas, your credit card number and some cash to Reza Pahlavi. A woman did this last week and shortly after she did, she bought a lottery ticket and won the jackpot. Thank you.
Posted by 2b 2006-03-02 00:23||   2006-03-02 00:23|| Front Page Top

#3 good thing that you support Bush so well Rif Raf.

I'm glad you see it that way.
Posted by Rafael 2006-03-02 00:42||   2006-03-02 00:42|| Front Page Top

#4 diplomacy maybe not, but military action will resolve it, how long are we going to wait before they build the nukes, what kind of precedent are we setting here for other countries
Posted by Ulemp Elmigum3652 2006-03-02 00:55||   2006-03-02 00:55|| Front Page Top

#5 ah yes, free the dissidents and magically Iran will become a democracy.

ah yes, another one who learns nothing from history.

This is where the free world can help. I know of hundreds of young dissidents who have done organizational activity inside Iran, in effect connecting the aforementioned small local networks. Today they are sitting scared in places from Jordan to Turkey, or in refugee camps in European cities. With a little help from the free world, they can become the building blocks of a two-way communication network that aggregates the demands of the thousand circles of opposition into a national demand for democracy and against this theocracy.

This was essentially one of the ways that communist propaganda was countered on the eastern side of the iron curtain. Information by itself, however, is not enough. There has to be a spark from within.
Posted by Rafael 2006-03-02 01:12||   2006-03-02 01:12|| Front Page Top

#6 Lol, this strikes me as three things...

1) a cash cow - with all the proceeds being filtered through Pahlavi and, likely disappearing right there

2) an amateurish parlor game that would result in exposing and a consequent roll up of the real dissidents inside Iran for death and / or 20 years of prison beatings

3) yet another way to give the MM's another 2-3 years to complete their acquisition of a deliverable nuke... only with a payoff - see #1

Yes, there will be nationalistic feelings generated if the Persians aren't part of the regime change / nuke takeout... It doesn't matter what they think if they fail to get their shit together in time. The non-Persians are likely to be rather happy about it. Circulating petitions and listening to a self-serving character like Pahlavi will have precisely zero bearing. It will happen and neither they nor Raphael nor Russian and ChiCom whores will be able to stop it.

Sucks to be behind the curve.
Posted by .com 2006-03-02 03:05||   2006-03-02 03:05|| Front Page Top

#7 It sucks even more to be behind the curve and dead.

Iran is running on borrowed time. We should start by rolling up their terrorist satelite groups anyway we can before cutting the head off the snake. Whats left of a Persian Iran can rot afterwards for all I care as long as it's another 100 years before they get their stuff together enough for anyone to have too pay attention to them again.
Posted by SPoD 2006-03-02 03:47||]">[]  2006-03-02 03:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Violence never solves anything.
The City Fathers of Carthage (RAH)
Posted by gromgoru 2006-03-02 10:10||   2006-03-02 10:10|| Front Page Top

#9 We should bankrupt them, destroy their means of making $$
Posted by Ulamble Ebbomons7669 2006-03-02 11:19||   2006-03-02 11:19|| Front Page Top

#10 It will happen and neither they nor Raphael nor Russian and ChiCom whores will be able to stop it.

I wouldn't dream of it.
Posted by Rafael 2006-03-02 12:55||   2006-03-02 12:55|| Front Page Top

#11 If neither military action or negotiation will solve the problem but military action will delay acquisition of nuclear weapons, the choice is simple. Who gives a rip about how long democracy is delayed? Once Iran has nuclear weapons, they will gain an immunity that forever compromises any ability to act in the Middle East. Bomb the crap out of them immediately.
Posted by Zenster 2006-03-02 18:33||   2006-03-02 18:33|| Front Page Top

#12 Wholehearted agreement, Zenster - except for the "immediately" bit. We Want What We Want When We Want It (W8I). Bush lives in the real world, where that never happens on cue. I agree that sucks.
Posted by .com 2006-03-02 18:38||   2006-03-02 18:38|| Front Page Top

#13 More whine bitch moan. Iran, stand up for yourselves and get on with the damn overthrow.

A few well-placed bullets and you're on your way. Given the high horse of the "intellectuals" about how progressive iran and how different they are from all this Mahmoud crap, where's the action.

Sitting afraid and doing nothing will get you wiped out with Mahmoud. Help yourselves, like ya keep saying you want to. Gotta take risks youselves - the knight on the white charger is a little busy right now.
Posted by Hupomoger Clans9827 2006-03-02 20:26||   2006-03-02 20:26|| Front Page Top

#14 Fact is: You don't know what you got till you kick the door down. Planning is good, contingencies are a given.

Fact #2: Can't wait for the disgruntled masses to pop their collective heads up. We are in a race against time, the clock is ticking.

Fact #3: Iran is the epicenter.

Fact #4: Regime change is mandatory. I can't envision Bush kicking the can down the street two or three years by strategic bombing target locations.

Fact #5: The EU faces a put-up-or-fuck-off decision within the next six months, as the coaltion of the willing is being formulated.

Fact #6: Take down launched in November or December 2006.

Posted by Captain America 2006-03-02 21:40||   2006-03-02 21:40|| Front Page Top

#15 Reza Pahlevi, Shah-in-exile, is begging us not to destroy his patrimony before he takes ownership of it.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-03-02 23:30||   2006-03-02 23:30|| Front Page Top

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