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Where Have All the Good Men Gone?
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-17 08:35|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6545 views ]  Top

#1 This is a good story to be told. Where are the good men?. They choose to be by themselves. Many young and old men find the dating scene a terrible experience. The least little perceived flaw and you are trashed. While the women have several children hanging on them. Thanks for the dinner, bye, bye. Many men are going overseas to secure a wife. Problem is they become Americanized fast. Some have married three times as a result. Men are the same as always. It is women who have changed. Women look and act like men now. I wouldn't want to make a living selling stockings now.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 09:15||   2013-02-17 09:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Where have all the suckers gone?

You don't just "Go-Galt" financially. When the government suckers you for work, you work less. When women give you a suckers deal, you don't take it.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-02-17 10:41||   2013-02-17 10:41|| Front Page Top

#3 The linkee Instapundit's Instawife has a running PJMedia column, Dr. Helen, that covers the War on Men chronicling the situation. Most of the available Good Men(c) have already been picked up by Good Women(c). New ones that come on the market are snatched up rather quickly, leaving a very scarce resource out there. Somewhere along the way to feminist independence, men have also discovered they too can live without the threat of ancient and anachronistic cultural laws that treat them as property and serfs.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-02-17 11:04||   2013-02-17 11:04|| Front Page Top

#4 Procopius2k, Hello. "Snatched up",That may be true but I know of many men of different ages that women pay no attention to. Women go for the trouble makers. It's like some men don't exist. So men go on with their lives single. The fairytale of a lasting relationship is gone. I know many will disagree with me, especially women, but I have studied human interaction for years. These are the worst of times now.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 11:41||   2013-02-17 11:41|| Front Page Top

#5 Tom T. Hall had it about right.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-02-17 11:55||   2013-02-17 11:55|| Front Page Top

#6 I'll have to try that Watermelon wine. I absolutely love Dandelion wine.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 12:05||   2013-02-17 12:05|| Front Page Top

#7 They choose to be by themselves

Also there's the "Peter Pan syndrome".
Posted by Pappy 2013-02-17 12:33||   2013-02-17 12:33|| Front Page Top

#8 Victims of PPS appear to be emotionally stunted at an adolescent level. Their impulses take priority over any internalized sense of right and wrong. They cope with their problems by engaging in a great deal of primitive denial, e.g. “If I don’t think about it, the problem will disappear.” This attitude frequently leads to alcohol and drug abuse, since getting high makes their problems disappear, at least as long as they are high. They excel at blaming others for their shortcomings, and are often extremely sensitive to rejection from others. The PPS sufferer desperately needs to belong, as he feels very, very lonely. There seems to be an immense vacuum in his life unless he is around people, preferably the center of attention.

Lots of time on the links and frequent visits to urban America as well ?
Posted by Besoeker 2013-02-17 12:39||   2013-02-17 12:39|| Front Page Top

#9 That may be true but I know of many men of different ages that women pay no attention to.

Ergo, they're not part of the 'market'. They are the 'dark side of the moon' to that element which probably doesn't in the end meet the criteria of Good Women(c). Instead of feeling out of it, they should count their blessings they are not tied to someone who wouldn't appreciate them for who they are, but considered nothing more than a harnessed work horse to deliver till they die.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-02-17 12:52||   2013-02-17 12:52|| Front Page Top

#10 These are the worst of times now.

Good to hear things are about to get better.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-02-17 12:57||   2013-02-17 12:57|| Front Page Top

#11 "They excel at blaming others for their shortcomings, and are often extremely sensitive to rejection from others."

Bambi is Peter Pan?
Posted by Barbara 2013-02-17 13:05||   2013-02-17 13:05|| Front Page Top

#12 Those with a bent toward marriage tend to marry young. The ones who picked well stay married. The others keep trying.

Thus, I am still with my first husband; my baby brother married well, twice -- the first one discovered she was unable to have children, and loved him enough to set him free, he's had two kids with the second one; and the older of my younger brothers married a bitch who literally and deliberately drove him to suicide, which gave her his money without the burden of dealing with him.

Dale, foolish women go for troublemakers...and foolish men, ditto. But I'd bet that none of the Rantburg women do. Actually, I do have a girlfriend like that; she satisfied the need by getting serious with a retired Marine sergeant in a steady job, who loves the idea that she's a martial arts instructor on the side. We're quietly hoping for wedding bells in a year or two -- his second, her third.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-02-17 13:14||   2013-02-17 13:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Best comment I've seen on this issue, ever, to follow.

(Rantburg women excluded, of course.)

Postmodern feminists would make me laugh at their presumptuousness and cluelessness, if what they said wasn't simultaneously so sickening. Yes, lots more men don't want to marry, but it’s not because they want to stay "man children." It’s because women and the divorce industry have made marriage a legal and social and economic nightmare for men. And yet these harridans want to make it even worse for men - so that it will be "equal!"

Marriage is voluntary, toots. Make it attractive to me or shove it. Or do without it, like more and more men seem to be able to do.

Trouble is, women pine away for it. They dream of it. Long for it. Plot and scheme and manipulate for it.

"How do I get him to 'commit?'"

"How do I get my boyfriend to propose to me?”

"He went to Jareds!"

Do you see men doing anything like this? No. Where are the men's "Groom" magazines? Nowhere.
And why is that, dumbass? Because marriage is a bad deal for women? How stupid can you be! No, because it is a GREAT deal for women - too great a deal. So great that it stinks for men. I don't have the stats for the US, but in the UK the marriage rate sinks to its lowest ever since recording began every new year.

Men are refusing to be controlled. They are refusing to die in harness so m’lady can sit on her fat ass and try to "discover" herself at age 40. Men are refusing to do all the work, pay all the freight, and then have everything they worked for, and their kid, snatched from them because Ms. Thang has decided she has "fallen out of love" with him. Yes, there are a few bad lazy men. They are vastly and totally outnumbered by this issue.

It wasn't men who brought about this state of affairs. It was women. You all told yourselves you shouldn't marry in your teens, 20's, or even early 30's (you know, when a man might actually want to marry you). And you bought it. No. You had to put your "careers" first. Then, when you are no longer young, hot, sexy, fertile and desirable, you bitched and moaned because Captain Save-a-Ho isn't sailing in to rescue you from a life of unending work, your credit card debts, and your cats! You're now too old to have kids safely and surely. Or you already had them with Mr. Wrong and now you expect Mr. Right to come in and pay for them! No wonder he would rather play with his Wii!

From Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem and Naomi Wolf, right down to the postmodern era we’re suffering through today, we’ve heard the feminist chant. La, La, La, La, La, I can have it all. I can live my life any way I want to without a man or anyone else telling me what to do. I don't care about society or my nation. I don't care about what men want. I only care about me. Look at me, listening to NPR, hanging with my cool friends, and our fancy pocketbooks and shoes and dresses and status and “education” and Sex in the City lifestyle. La, La, La, La…..

Then La, La, La turns to Waaaah, Waaahh, Waaaaah, call me a Waaahmbulance! Because, after a certain point, nobody gives a sh!t about you. Your ”career” was a joke all along, which you only got because your boss hoped you might put out, your attractiveness brightened up the office, or the EEOC was on his ass about affirmative action. You waaaaaaaaaaaant to get married and have baaaaaaaaaaaabies. But those immature "man children" are either soured on the opposite sex altogether, or are looking for a younger, superior version of you to pump and dump, or if they are foolish, to marry.

If the old rules and laws were in place, most men would happily work all their lives for their wives and children. Young men adore women. Many of them long for a real girlfriend, never mind a wife. They would marry young and have kids and be faithful, till death did them part. But THAT is not the world the feminists wanted. THIS is the world they wanted. Well, you got it sweetheart. You got your own cigarette now, baby, you've come a long, long way!

Hope you like it!
Posted by no mo uro 2013-02-17 13:57||   2013-02-17 13:57|| Front Page Top

#14 So the liberal few ruined marriage for everyone else?

Same with schools.



You name it.
Posted by Bobby 2013-02-17 14:27||   2013-02-17 14:27|| Front Page Top

#15 Hear, hear, #13 nmo!
Posted by Barbara 2013-02-17 14:28||   2013-02-17 14:28|| Front Page Top

#16 well, as far as marriage, raising kids, been there done that. Kids completed me far more than the ex. That's probably why I'm still single now in my low 50's and my ex is on husband #4. Being pretty set financially I find being friends with the wymyns at my age is best, cuz the benefits most're looking for are dental, medical, and vision, and a chunk of my retirement. That ain't happening. I'll likely NEVER get married again
Posted by Frank G 2013-02-17 14:42||   2013-02-17 14:42|| Front Page Top

#17 Oh well, I am on wife #3.

Not to bad.

First wife couldn't take the knocks at the door in the middle of the night and the long absences.

Second wife just couldn't put up with my crap...she was a good mother though and gave me two great, but completely lost in the general state of the current generation.

I finally learned how to be a good husband and a good partner with #3. I think Socrates, or maybe it was Plato, that said we should marry three times, once to an older woman to learn how to be a man, once to a younger woman to teach her how to be a woman and have your children, and finally to a woman of your own age for the years after children and old age.

Those Greeks figured that out pretty well, what happened to their understanding of finance or are they just too right brained for numbers?
Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-02-17 14:48||   2013-02-17 14:48|| Front Page Top

#18 Yes, BC I have heard that before. A woman said this, first you marry for good sex. Next you marry for good children. Finally you marry for money. She did exactly that. I tell a story that goes like this; Once upon a time a long long time ago in a land far far away there two who were seeing each other. Well as things will happen he asked to marry her and she said no! and they lived happily ever after.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 15:26||   2013-02-17 15:26|| Front Page Top

#19 I'm becoming divorced, not by choice, but because my wife want's it, she's Blind, and can't get around, SO, I'm building a home (For me and my Grandchildren) and the hell with her.

She lives in a Seniors Apartment House (Don't know how she's going to afford it now)

She lies, without thinking, or regret, and it's taken me years to understand this, I think the last thing was to buy her a BIG color (High definition) TV, she wanted one to see (She has trouble seeing) and so I bought one at Wall World, (On sale) and she loves it.

Then I had to have an operation, (Pituary Tumor, Non-Cancerous) and while recovering, she blew up, lied about whatever she could, and had the Apartment locks changed, locking me out.

(I feel hurt, when I needed her the most, she deserted me, stabbed me in the back, so to speak)

So, Im going back to my Grandmother's old Farm, (20 acres lightly wooded, I own 10)
and build a home, this will be the third time I've needed to leave and build, Sooo, it's not that uncommon.

(First wife gave me two children, One of which turned out very well, the other is shit)

Wish me well. I'm 65 and reasonably healthy, I figure I've got 30-40 Years left, then my Daughter inherits and away we go, Wish me luck, I'll need it, I plan to live alone.

Long story, bye now.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-02-17 16:12||   2013-02-17 16:12|| Front Page Top

#20 Your grandkids are fortunate to have you. We'll keep you in our thoughts and prayers Jim.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-02-17 16:20||   2013-02-17 16:20|| Front Page Top

#21 RJ Sorry for your pain. When the chips are down some bolt. She will qualify for government programs. Income based payments. She will be happy alone with her cat if they allow that. The grandchildren will be worked over with guilt. When are you going to see me. Why haven't you called. It never ends. She will become a stranger to you. Like a part of her memory was erased. The women on her side will blame you. Don't look for any support there. She can do whatever she wants and they will support her over you and your family. Absolutely no interest in fence mending. Watch out on your bank accounts. What is ours is hers. You owe her in her mind. Thats where the kids will help her sometimes.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 16:58||   2013-02-17 16:58|| Front Page Top

#22 Sorry to hear that, RJ. Your soon-to-be-ex doesn't know what she'll be missing.

For what it's worth, you'll always have us.

(Yeah, I know - scary thought.)
Posted by Barbara 2013-02-17 16:58||   2013-02-17 16:58|| Front Page Top

#23 Think about it for a second. You see a young lady your interested in. You approach her. You could be pepper sprayed, she could say you are a stalker or she could call for security. You are always wrong. P2k is correct, "count your blessings". Remember what Spock said "having is not so great as wanting". OK, beam me up Scotti.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 17:22||   2013-02-17 17:22|| Front Page Top

#24 Redneck Jim, you have my sympathies. I know it's been hard for you, healthwise, these past few years, but I think you are one of the good ones.

Don't forget to join a church when you settle down -- in your age group there are a lot of many-hungry women... and the ratio is only going to get worse for them.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-02-17 17:47||   2013-02-17 17:47|| Front Page Top

#25 man-hungry PIMF!!
Posted by trailing wife 2013-02-17 17:55||   2013-02-17 17:55|| Front Page Top

#26 Life of Julia/Julian. Life. Marriage is like a box of chocolates, you just never know what you are going to get!
Posted by JohnQC 2013-02-17 18:02||   2013-02-17 18:02|| Front Page Top

#27 Where have all the good men gone? Maybe gender reassignment operations?

Redneck Jim. Hang in there. There are a lot of good women in the world as evidenced by the comments of the women at this site. There are single women or widows who would enjoy the company of a good man such as you. Church is often a good place to meet people as T.W. suggested. Of course there are the Russian women too.
Posted by JohnQC 2013-02-17 18:17||   2013-02-17 18:17|| Front Page Top

#28 JohnQC that was sad but good. TW I hear you but what I have found is you don't date church members. Its like dating someone at work. Your degree of faith also is constantly tested by her.
They always look for flaws or potential failure. The ones who are single usually are single for a reason. Like my joke about 72 virgins like that is going to happen. My Romanian friend said never trust Russian women. Goggle virgin Russian adult women- sorry we cannot process your request.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 18:19||   2013-02-17 18:19|| Front Page Top

#29 Many {are indeed} hungry as well, wahahahaha
Posted by Besoeker 2013-02-17 18:20||   2013-02-17 18:20|| Front Page Top

#30 Where have all the good men gone?
Hiding, perhaps after being chased by benefits hungry or just a quickrollinthehay cougar.
At a dance recently with Spousal Unit, and the resident coug (no relation to WSU) made a full on attack run. it wasn't pretty, but she and her sisters in kind scare away any potential 'targets.'
After 40 years I am going to keep what I got, thank you very much.
Posted by USN,Ret. 2013-02-17 18:26||   2013-02-17 18:26|| Front Page Top

#31 RJ best to leave sleeping dogs lie. So much anger, fear, hatred and old baggage. I know men have a hard time moving on but women do also. Stay away from a widow on the anniversary death of her spouse. They don't want to go through that all again.
Posted by Dale 2013-02-17 18:31||   2013-02-17 18:31|| Front Page Top

#32 Thank you all, I don't Church, otherwise I'm glad for your support.

I don't mean to whine.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-02-17 18:44||   2013-02-17 18:44|| Front Page Top

#33 You're not whining, RJ. Anyway, what are friends for? ;-p
Posted by Barbara 2013-02-17 18:49||   2013-02-17 18:49|| Front Page Top

#34 I've run across a source of cheap houses/homes (With some work), the portable buildings, some can be bought quite large, large enough to live in (With some work) and that's what I plan.

A 16/28 seems large enough for me, But with NO utilities, I'll have to put them in, the price is good however.

So I'll buy that, in 6 months (I have about 1800.00 a month income, Unattached in any way) So, a shell first, followed by a bathroom, then a kitchen and a well for water (Ther's one, but too far away) Then a septic system and I'm done.

There'll be other things later, that will do for now.

One relief, I'm under the minimum I'll have to pay income tax on, and I can live very comfortably on that.

NO bills, No debt.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-02-17 19:04||   2013-02-17 19:04|| Front Page Top

#35 RJ, hermitude has its appeals.
Posted by Glenmore 2013-02-17 19:24||   2013-02-17 19:24|| Front Page Top

#36 Where have all the good men gone?

In the Friend Zone where the feminazis left them!
Posted by badanov 2013-02-17 19:50||  2013-02-17 19:50|| Front Page Top

#37 q: What's the four most horrible words in the English language?

a: Let's Just Be Friends...
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-02-17 20:03||   2013-02-17 20:03|| Front Page Top

#38 Your "career" was a joke all along, which you only got because your boss hoped you might put out, your attractiveness brightened up the office, or the EEOC was on his ass about affirmative action.

Gee, and here I thought it was because of my degrees and publications and research and proven development of profitable products.

Silly me.
Posted by lotp 2013-02-17 20:32||   2013-02-17 20:32|| Front Page Top

#39 yeah, that was dumb
Posted by Frank G 2013-02-17 20:34||   2013-02-17 20:34|| Front Page Top

#40 I forgot to mention the House would cost 5,800.00 If I finance it it'll cost 12k. (Interest is hell)
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-02-17 21:15||   2013-02-17 21:15|| Front Page Top

#41 Very sorry to hear your story Redneck. I've known people like that. :( Wishing you the best.
Posted by CrazyFool 2013-02-17 21:33||   2013-02-17 21:33|| Front Page Top

#42 RJ: Your ex sounds like she has Alzheimers.
Posted by badanov 2013-02-17 22:07||  2013-02-17 22:07|| Front Page Top

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