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2005-11-17 Home Front: Politix

Rep. Murtha (D), Col. USMC (ret) calls for immediate withdrawal from Iraq

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Posted by Elmomotle Whinese8662 2005-11-17 15:56|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Dupe. Delete.

Posted by Whavitch Creth5450 2005-11-17 16:53|| 2005-11-17 16:53|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm gonna check into the Dark Side thingy. It sure is a seductive little tart these days amongst the Alzheimers set. Maybe in another decade or three I'll become as addled as John.

Yo, Murtha, you need to change your Depends and lay off the ~~Ensure~~ Kool Aid. When I grow so old as to need diapers and pablum again, I'll off myself. Yes, John, you've hung around too long at the public trough, and now you've entered the Fog of ~~War~~ Boggle. Sorry to see it, but there it is. You're excused, sir, shuffle board is to your right and shuffling off mortal coils to your Left.

Cut and run. What an epitaph. This is hubris of the I believe my own PR sort.

Posted by .com 2005-11-17 16:57|| 2005-11-17 16:57|| Front Page Top

#3 So when Murtha was in Nam, did he really like it when politicians back home screwed him?

Or is this like being the adult child of an alcoholic, where one does what is familiar?

Posted by eLarson 2005-11-17 17:01|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-11-17 17:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Murtha was elected to congress in 1974. You remember them, the Watergate class who voted to abandon the Vietnamese in 1975. Wonder how he voted on that.

Posted by Whavimble Unaque8791 2005-11-17 17:04|| 2005-11-17 17:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Thought Murtha was the large moth from the Japanese horror flicks. Maybe it was Mothra.

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-11-17 18:57|| 2005-11-17 18:57|| Front Page Top

#6 "Our military has accomplished its mission and done its duty," he said. "Our military captured Saddam Hussein, captured or killed his closest associates, but the war continues to intensify."

What planet is this asshole living on? We are winning this war and we are in the final stages of the military conflict. His assertion that the war is intensifying is an outright lie.

"I tell you, these young folks are under intense activity over there, I mean much more intense than Vietnam," he said. "You never know when it's going to happen."

Uh, riight. Going up against the "Lions of Islam" is faaaaar more intense than going up against hardcore, well trained and supplied NVA. What utter and complete bullshit. This Marine is a traitor. I hope that thousands of active and retired Marines flood his office telling him just that.

Posted by remoteman 2005-11-17 19:23|| 2005-11-17 19:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Murtha wants to do for Iraqis what he did for South Vietnamese and Cambodians. I guess Murtha is in the farce phase of his life.

Posted by ed 2005-11-17 19:41|| 2005-11-17 19:41|| Front Page Top

#8 remoteman: What planet is this asshole living on? We are winning this war and we are in the final stages of the military conflict. His assertion that the war is intensifying is an outright lie.

You are both right. We are winning and the war is intensifying. The final stages of WWII involved extremely high casualties for Allied Forces, as the remaining Axis Powers fought ferocious last ditch battles to prevent the homeland from being overrun. The closer we get to winning, the higher our casualties will be. The problem is that this rule also applies if we're not winning.

What Murtha is saying is that since there's no way of telling whether we're winning or not winning* in Iraq, let's just cut our losses today. What he left out is the fact that the blow to our credibility will encourage other adversaries to go to war with our allies because they believe Uncle Sam doesn't have the gumption to stick it out. Murtha talks about how other global threats cannot be ignored, but the fact is that withdrawal from Iraq may cause these threats to come to fruition. Withdrawal from Vietnam triggered the Iranian revolution, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the Sandinista takeover of Nicaragua. A withdrawal from Iraq is a message to potential adversaries that we will back down after a mere 2000 military casualties even after 3000 people are slaughtered on American soil. What does this mean for our alliances all over the world? Murtha doesn't care about American interests. He just wants to emote, just like all the other liberals out there.

* Note that he's careful not to say that we're losing. He's saying that it's not worth the cost.

Posted by Elmenter Snineque1852 2005-11-17 19:50|| 2005-11-17 19:50|| Front Page Top

#9 ES, you are right regarding the intensification at the terminus of the conflict. I was considering that as I wrote it. But I was also looking at the fact that the war is encompassing a smaller and smaller footprint. It is more intense in that footprint, but less so across the entire country. You are spot on with your other comments. Murtha is a short-sighted fool.

Posted by remoteman 2005-11-17 20:02|| 2005-11-17 20:02|| Front Page Top

#10 Murtha has become a political hack. While he may have good motivations in his heart, it is hard for me to believe the wacko wing of the Democrat party did not talk him into doing something he would not otherwise have done. His party abandoned him and he hasn't figured it out. Too bad he hangs with Reid and Pelosi.

Posted by Slaiger Thragum4769 2005-11-17 20:13|| 2005-11-17 20:13|| Front Page Top

#11 I won't attack Rep. Murtha personally. He's an ex-Marine, and I thank him for his service. I think he's wrong on this one. We have not done all we can, and it would certainly be seen by most of the world as a cut-and-run. We can't allow that.

Posted by Steve White 2005-11-17 20:21|| 2005-11-17 20:21|| Front Page Top

#12 Setting a timetable or having an immediate withdrawal would be a grave mistake. U.S. credibility would be zip in that part of the world for a long time to come. We cannot abandom the Iraqis.

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-11-17 21:27|| 2005-11-17 21:27|| Front Page Top

#13 The Honorable John P. Murtha
House of Representatives
2423 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-3812

Re: Iraq

Dear Representative Murtha:

"Our military has accomplished its mission and done its duty," he said. "Our military captured Saddam Hussein, captured or killed his closest
associates, but the war continues to intensify."

Congressman, I think you have been misinformed, or perhaps are uninformed. I do not believe the war is intensifying.

I read Michael Yon's reports, and reports from Kuwait (KUNA), Arab News, and other sources. I believe we are very close to winning the war. As we were in Vietnam, Congressman.

My son fought in Iraq last fall and winter, with the Marines, and received a commendation. His Mother and I are very proud of him and will be glad to have him go back next year to win the war on terror. (Well, maybe not glad, but certainly proud!)

Over 2,000 military have sacrificed their lives for the war on terror. They were all volunteers, Congressman.

Over 3,000 were drafted by the enemy on September 11, 2001.

Please reconsider your position, Congressman. How did you feel in Vietnam when your Congress did not support you?

Respectfully, (Bobby)

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Posted by Bobby 2005-11-17 21:42|| 2005-11-17 21:42|| Front Page Top

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