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2006-03-14 India-Pakistan
70-90 percent of Pakistani women suffer domestic violence
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Posted by Fred 2006-03-14 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [410 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 So, where are the Western feminists on this?
... (crickets) ...
Posted by DMFD 2006-03-14 00:15||   2006-03-14 00:15|| Front Page Top

#2 I guess the rest of the Pakistani women don't suffer from it, they enjoy their freedom to be treated worse than property under Islamic law.

We must realize that this is "part of their culture" (tm) and must be respected.....
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-03-14 00:17||]">[]  2006-03-14 00:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Only 70-90%?
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-03-14 08:14||   2006-03-14 08:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Only 70-90%?

Those are the ones that talk about it.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-03-14 08:38||]">[]  2006-03-14 08:38|| Front Page Top

#5 DMFD-right here. I am a feminist, and I denounce what the Pakistanis are doing to their women. I wish I could click my feminist heels together to make Pakistani men stop, but unfortunately, all I can do is fight with words and ideas against the misogyny called Islam.
Posted by Jules 2006-03-14 09:55||   2006-03-14 09:55|| Front Page Top

#6 Same here, Jules. But I think what DFMD is referring to are the leadership of the different
"feminist organizations", especially the old guard from the 60's and 70's. They are either silent, or they issue unbelievable apologies for the misogynist behavior that seems to go hand in hand with Islam.

When they care as much about the plight of brown and black women as they do about getting the "right" white woman on a corporate board, maybe they'll stop being so irrelevant.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-03-14 11:19||]">[]  2006-03-14 11:19|| Front Page Top

#7 DB-True enough. Even yesterday, on Bill Mahr (which I watch when I want to increase my blood pressure) had Gloria Steinem announcing a new rule, prefering the actions of a woman-hating, serial philanderer, Bill Clinton, to the actions of our military in Iraq: "Make love, not war." I was disgusted to hear that come out of her mouth. Gloria, you have sunk low.

Back to Pakistan-where does one even begin to fight against domestic violence when the women under Islam submit so easily and even believe they "have it coming"? Remember the story last year (or was it the year before) about Turkish women believing they merited beatings?

Reduction in domestic violence under Islam could come from the women in those societies-there is power in numbers-but I don't believe it will be reduced, because THEY don't believe it SHOULD be reduced. I have been wracking by brain trying to figure out how to encourage them to pressure the "men" in their families to start acting like human beings with hearts, but can't figure out how that could happen when the Koran authorizes the men to beat their wives. No answers yet...
Posted by Jules 2006-03-14 11:54||   2006-03-14 11:54|| Front Page Top

#8 This should come as no surprise to anyone who has even lightly studied islam.

From the Quran from chapter 4, called Nisa (Women), verse 34: "Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them...
Posted by Icerigger 2006-03-14 19:46||   2006-03-14 19:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Beating of women is not just encouraged under sharia, it is enforced.

Once again, the problem is islam. Women cannot protest or fight back, not yet: the law is against them, every man is against them, every mosque, every muttawa, every vigilante, every teenager with a woody....

Women would simply be killed in large numbers if they protested before some inkling of equal rights can be pounded into the men's brains.

Won't happen with Islam as fast as it did (2,000 years and counting) for christianity. May never come to pass.

And don't smirk. Domestic violence in North America approaches 20%. And keep in mind, 1 in 3 women over the age of 14 has been raped or sexually abused.

You can speak out, but in some cultures, the behaviour is, at worst excused, and at best ignored.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-03-14 20:49||   2006-03-14 20:49|| Front Page Top

#10  Domestic violence in North America approaches 20%. And keep in mind, 1 in 3 women over the age of 14 has been raped or sexually abused.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-03-14 22:18||   2006-03-14 22:18|| Front Page Top

#11 I blame Bush.
Posted by Angump Slomosing6697 2006-03-14 23:27||   2006-03-14 23:27|| Front Page Top

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