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2006-03-15 Europe
Dutch getting tougher on terror
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-03-15 03:28|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "We were tolerant to the intolerants and we only got intolerance back," said Geert Wilders,

Unfortunately, that is generally the harvest.
Posted by Visitor 2006-03-15 08:15||   2006-03-15 08:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Bouyeri, who had described Holland as a "democratic torture chamber," talked about overthrowing the Dutch parliament and replacing it with an Islamic court.

Like "Just Curious", to whom democracy does not exist unless he or his compatriots are in charge, and for whom the rules do not apply...
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-03-15 09:10|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-03-15 09:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Ptah, are you sure they're that dense?

That's pretty mean. :)
Posted by Glert Thetch2165 2006-03-15 09:15||   2006-03-15 09:15|| Front Page Top

#4 It's finally dawning on these ultra-tolerant leftists just what a cesspool they have created. There is no compromise or tloerance to be had from Muzzies. Europe will either end up with millions jailed at a tremendous cost, or get some reality and start massive deportations of anyone who does not conform with societal norms.
Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-03-15 10:12||   2006-03-15 10:12|| Front Page Top

#5 The Dutch are to be congratulated on coming around to common sense and self-preservation. But this makes me just wonder whether we won't see a 10-year term of taqqiya:

"The fact that, according to official government estimates, major cities such as Amsterdam and Rotterdam will be Muslim-majority within a decade only adds urgency to the issue..."

They could create a body of laws for self-preservation, but then legislation can always be removed 10 years down the line, can't it?

Wonder what will happen to all those Dutch churches by 2017? Or those unveiled women?
Posted by Jules 2006-03-15 10:41||   2006-03-15 10:41|| Front Page Top

#6 BTW-What are the gun laws there? Can a civilian own a gun?
Posted by Jules 2006-03-15 11:07||   2006-03-15 11:07|| Front Page Top

#7 Dutch getting tougher on terror

the Black Robes of The Hague "cracking down"

A court in The Hague has handed down severe sentences to the ringleaders of the Hofstad group, which was suspected of planning terrorist attacks in the Netherlands. The judge ruled that nine of the 14 defendants belonged to the terrorist group and were guilty of sedition, incitement to hatred and intimidation.

Two of them, Jason Walters and Ismail Akhnikh were sentenced to 15 and 13 years in prison, respectively, for injuring five members of a SWAT team with hand grenades in The Hague in 2004. The court ruled that Mohammed Bouyeri was the leader of the group, but did not impose a sentence, as he is already serving life for the killing of filmmaker Theo van Gogh.

Three of those convicted were released immediately because they have already served their sentences in custody. The five other defendants were acquitted.


for..

murder
attempted murder with bodily harm
terrorism

/"rehabilitated and released" or sooner
Posted by RD 2006-03-15 12:07||   2006-03-15 12:07|| Front Page Top

#8 Other measures directly target the Muslim community. Public funding for Islamic schools, often accused of perpetrating the self-segregation of the Muslim community, is under review.

So much for that whole separation of church and state stated a few paragraphs above this, eh? Or does it not apply when its separation of mosque and state?
Posted by BA 2006-03-15 13:35||   2006-03-15 13:35|| Front Page Top

#9 BA you're making the mistake of applying American Laws to other non-american Nations.

The Dutch are under a different set of laws, I don't know if they practice separation of church and state or not.
But I'd bet not.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-03-15 14:02||   2006-03-15 14:02|| Front Page Top

#10 Except that last election, Holland lurched left...

http://www.peaktalk.com/archives/002037.php
Posted by Adriane 2006-03-15 15:15||   2006-03-15 15:15|| Front Page Top

#11 ...basic Dutch values such as women's rights, separation of church and state and respect for different lifestyles.

Uh, RJ, this was in above my previous quotes 2 paragraphs above it. Methinks, the Dutch are far more liberal than even US standards, so that means even more separation than we have. Of course, funding of moskkks could've been in the name of multi-culti, ya know? Just sayin's all. I just find it ironic they (gov't officials) quote separation of church and state, and then, just 2 paragraphs later state they fund moskks. I guess multi-culti thought processes cause you to see that as logical until the boomers are on your own front porch.
Posted by BA 2006-03-15 15:48||   2006-03-15 15:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Beg pardon, sloppy reading on my part, you're absolutely right, I told off the wrong poster.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-03-15 19:26||   2006-03-15 19:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Bravo. I'm pleased to see Holland taking this step.

Canada has been falling more and more leftward into this same trap. Which is a big mistake and I'm hoping the cacophony of Ontario LLL take heed.

The Canadian model of multi-cult has worked well in the past, when candidates were tested and screened and came here for the freedom and hope that was offered. The current influx of "refugees" and welfare seekers who suck the system and remain apart (or worse, demand special attention to their needsz), refusing to learn the language or accept that they are in a different country - by choice - are the problem.

The separate funding of ethnic schools - including the Catholic system - must go. As Hollland realises. The goal was multi-cult and noble in design, just not use.

I'm hoping Canada wakes up - like the Dutch.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-03-15 19:49||   2006-03-15 19:49|| Front Page Top

#14 Heh...no skin off my back, RJ! I was more getting at the inherent idiotic hypocritical words of the writer than the Dutch themselves. At least some of old Europe is waking up and staring down all the liberal programs they've instituted over the last 40-50 years (like multiculturalism, the supreme nanny states, etc.). Any progress Europe makes in the right direction, I'll cheer. I just hope they do it faster, because I don't believe we need to save that continent a third time (sorry, JFM and others across the pond).
Posted by BA 2006-03-15 22:14||   2006-03-15 22:14|| Front Page Top

#15 Too late.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-03-15 23:57||   2006-03-15 23:57|| Front Page Top

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