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2006-03-13 Iraq
US Army in Jeopardy in Iraq
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Posted by Steve 2006-03-13 10:04|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6505 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This guy's still alive?
Posted by tu3031 2006-03-13 11:10||   2006-03-13 11:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Hey Gary,

You hail from Colorado. Did they ever teach you the regional history. You know how the Sioux north of you kick the Army's ass at Rosebud and Little Big Horn or how the Apache continued to kick the Army's ass in Texas and the New Mexico territory? If we had wonder hand wringers like you and your Democratic brethern, the aboriginals would still own the area. However, after many years of set backs, lack of strategic goals, constant change over in policies, somehow we ended up with a few states out the area and the 'insurgents' defeated. It takes time. There is no McDonalds in real nation building. Meanwhile, you might want to learn your own country's history before telling us about the Europeans, who don't have much of a great record in recent years on cleaning up their own mess.
Posted by Glomogum Clock4849 2006-03-13 11:45||   2006-03-13 11:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Democrat political success depends upon American failure.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-03-13 11:54||]">[]  2006-03-13 11:54|| Front Page Top

#4 "Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it."

Those who learn the wrong things from history are doomed to sound like educated idiots.
Posted by Xbalanke 2006-03-13 11:55||   2006-03-13 11:55|| Front Page Top

#5 If sectarian violence escalates further, US troops must be withdrawn from patrol and confined to their barracks and garrisons. Once you do that you give up the initiative to the enemy. He can move anywhere at will and knows what's going on while you sit in a fortified place and are blind and unable to influence events outside the walls of your bunker. A losing strategy from a loser.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2006-03-13 11:58||   2006-03-13 11:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Democrat political success depends upon American failure.

That'd make a good bumpersticker.
Posted by SLO Jim 2006-03-13 12:29||   2006-03-13 12:29|| Front Page Top

#7 thank you, Sen Hartpence (D-Quagmire)
Posted by Frank G 2006-03-13 12:53||   2006-03-13 12:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it and are usually having problems with practical math too.
Posted by 6 2006-03-13 12:59||   2006-03-13 12:59|| Front Page Top

#9 surround and then overrun those units before they can be withdrawn.

And now let me introduce you to Mr. Hart's new speechwriter, Baghdad Bob.
Posted by Matt 2006-03-13 13:54||   2006-03-13 13:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Al-Sadr's neighborhood defenses were breached by Sunni terrorists, yesterday. As for the Sunnis, intelligence followed by combat operations with large Iraq Army participation, has reduced the terror groups to barely connected cells. If a large group did manage to trap US troops, they would be wiped out by heavy bombers.
Posted by Listen To Dogs 2006-03-13 14:29||   2006-03-13 14:29|| Front Page Top

#11 This reads like Monty Python's duck-witch sketch, but without the airtight logic.
Posted by Perfessor 2006-03-13 14:32||   2006-03-13 14:32|| Front Page Top

#12 Everytime the terrorists try a "surround and overrun" scenario, the US piles the enemy dead up around the US positions and loses maybe 1 or 2 dead and 6 or 7 wounded. Meanwhile, the terrs lose 50-100 dead and 200-300 wounded. How is this an effective military strategy on the part of the terrs?
Also, the Sunnis had better pray to any available god that the US does NOT pullback from active patrols in the Sunni zones -- that only leaves Shia and Kurdish troops to patrol there. Think that the Iraq police and military have a problem with anti-Sunni death squads now, just let the restraining hand of the US get removed.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2006-03-13 16:47||   2006-03-13 16:47|| Front Page Top

#13 I see he's back sippin' the sauce on the Monkey Business.
Posted by DoDo 2006-03-13 17:10||   2006-03-13 17:10|| Front Page Top

#14 how the Apache continued to kick the Army's ass in Texas and the New Mexico territory

In fact, the Apache War in the southwestern US lasted for over 20 years. In many ways, it was a classic guerilla war/insurgency campaign against a not very professional (at the time and in many cases, not all) US Army.

About the only group the Apaches had any real respect for were the famed Buffalo Soldiers - a mixed race regiment (mostly black) led by white officers. From all accounts, the Buffalo Soldiers learned how the Apache guerillas worked and emulated them - including their ruthlessness.

A guerilla war/insurgency lasting 20 years is unheard of today, right? Right? Hellooo...

Sorry, forgot about Afghanistan, Sudan, Congo, Malaysia, Phillipines, etc., etc.

Once the US Army gets it's act together and acts ruthlessly to root out and destroy the guerillas, tere's still not a force on earth that can withstand them. Unfortunately, it would appear we have failed to learn from history.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg  2006-03-13 17:37||]">[]  2006-03-13 17:37|| Front Page Top

#15 Hart was overrated as a Senator since then he's been overrated as a washed up has been
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-03-13 19:51||   2006-03-13 19:51|| Front Page Top

#16 A joke from the time that stil works...

"What is the difference between Republican women and Democrat women?

Republican women give their heart to Bush; Democrat women give their bush to Hart."
Posted by Ulaigum Ebbereck6419 2006-03-13 20:44||   2006-03-13 20:44|| Front Page Top

#17 Eeeeeeeew, UE. There's a mental image I don't need! The only image worse is Hillary in dominatrix outfit whipping the man-breasted Senator from Massachusetts.
Posted by BA 2006-03-13 22:31||   2006-03-13 22:31|| Front Page Top

#18 all the US has to do is forget pc bullshit and release the full combat potential - a little med-evil.
Posted by Hupaviper Flaique8373 2006-03-13 22:54||   2006-03-13 22:54|| Front Page Top

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