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2005-11-16 Iraq
Iraqi raid appears aimed at wooing Sunnis
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Posted by Unaique Omosing3991 2005-11-16 05:56|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [307 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

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I've heard rumors that a Sunni mother asked the US forces for help with her 15 yr old son who was illegally being held. An American General who went to inspect, was denied access, then said "the HELL I AM" and barged in finding the prisoners in bad shape. There is speculation that this was the responsibility of Badr Brigade elements.
Posted by Groluque Omeart4634 2005-11-16 08:40||   2005-11-16 08:40|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't know about woo-ing, it just sounds like the right thing to do.
Posted by Groluque Omeart4634 2005-11-16 08:41||   2005-11-16 08:41|| Front Page Top

#3 GO, that was what a network TV news program also reported as what set off the raid. AP is worse than useless.
Posted by ed 2005-11-16 08:42||   2005-11-16 08:42|| Front Page Top

#4 This would be a great opportunity for fostering goodwill. If, that is, we were actually dealing with a culture that was capable gratitude.
Posted by BH 2005-11-16 10:16||   2005-11-16 10:16|| Front Page Top

#5 Hearts and minds.

We know the Badr brigades and Peshmerga have secret prisons and that they regularly engage in torture, or at least we suspect it and don't bother to confirm it. Turning a blind eye as it were, but payback's a bitch, and I can't say that I'd do much of shit to stop the Kurds and Shiia after some of the heinous shit I've seen that Saddam's secret police did to them.

But this looked like an agregious and very public situation, and examples have to be made for peace's sake.

Hearts and minds and all.
EP
Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-11-16 12:04||   2005-11-16 12:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Hear, hear BH (#4).
Posted by gromgoru 2005-11-16 13:43||   2005-11-16 13:43|| Front Page Top

#7 The unprecedented U.S. raid on an Iraqi detention facility filled with malnourished torture victims appears aimed in part at scoring points among Sunni Arabs, whose participation in next month's parliamentary election is key to an American exit Iraq.

That doesn't make any sense. While it may foster goodwill towards the US, it doesn't logically follow that it would impact participation among Sunni Arabs in the next election. Maybe I'm wrong - but I don't think the Americans will be voting in that election.

It's total nonsesne. kinda like:

A policeman released a man who was being held and tortured by his brother. The action appears to be aimed in part at scoring points among the victims family, whose participation in next month's Thanksgiving dinner is key to disbanding the police department.
Posted by 2b 2005-11-16 22:27||   2005-11-16 22:27|| Front Page Top

#8 The discovery Sunday night of 173 malnourished prisoners - some of them bearing evidence of torture - in an Interior Ministry lockup appeared to vindicate many of the Sunni Arab claims. Most of the prisoners are believed to be Sunnis.

Actually, the raid was intended to apprehend more suspected terrorists.
Posted by Zenster 2005-11-16 22:53||   2005-11-16 22:53|| Front Page Top

#9 The discovery Sunday night of 173 malnourished prisoners - some of them bearing evidence of torture - in an Interior Ministry lockup appeared to vindicate many of the Sunni Arab claims. Most of the prisoners are believed to be Sunnis.

Actually, the raid was intended to apprehend more suspected terrorists.
Posted by Zenster 2005-11-16 22:57||   2005-11-16 22:57|| Front Page Top

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